Jan Nicolai Langfeldt wrote: > > > except Sweden? :-) > > > > No, I don't trust you on anything like this. Your version of the truth > > for the situation in Sweden should give enough reason to not do so. :( > > Nuvel, hvis du føler at du ikke kan stole på Andries, så er det best at du > fjerner fsck, kjerne kildekoden din, osv.. I don't know what you are implying here. This was about the validity of locale data, and I only mentioned that I wouldn't trust Andries' opinions regarding this, but I also mentioned that I would offer to investigate his opinions. That's all. > Andries sine reservasjoner synes helt rimlige for i lys av at det er så > enkelt å vise at locale-informasjonen for ukestart er så gal, og at > util-linux bør virke uten påtakelige problemer på alle maskiner med de > aller fleste versjoner av libc og glibc. Using the locale data, even it is wrong in some cases, isn't more wrong than the situation already is by hard-coding it in util-linux, which already makes the output wrong in some cases today. Using the locale data right now would make the situation a lot better, because then util-linux isn't buggy regarding this, and only glibc has to be fixed. > At det brukes så mye tid på å overbevise om at en bestemt dag som er > først er bedre engnet til en svenskevits enn boken "Konstruktive > diskusjoner innen system-programmering". If you believe we were overstating the issue of the first weekday used in Sweden, I guess you didn't read Andries' first mails at all. He spent a lot of time not only stating that I (who have lived in Sweden for the most part of my life), but also at least two other Swedish translators, were totally wrong about the first weekday used in Sweden, and implied that he knew better, refusing to acknowledge most of what we wrote and could personally testify. In fact, he still hasn't admitted that he might have been wrong about it. > Søndag har historien bak seg, fordi om både norge og svergie for > tiden nok bruker mandag oftere enn søndag som første dag. Yeah. Sunday was used as the first day of week in Norway and Sweden many decades ago. That hardly makes it useful today, just plain wrong. > Alt i alt er konservatisme hos Andries bra for både deg og meg, det > hjelper til i rettning av å gjøre at Linux fungerer på en forutsigbar, om > enn ikke 100% perfekt måte. I don't what conservatism has to do with this. If something is wrong, then of what use is it? Stability comes after usefulness in my book; a simple hello world application might be terribly stable, but is hardly useful. This is a situation with a hello world program that outputs "d!Hello Worl" in some locales. It's terribly stable, but hardly useful to any of these users. > Ta argumentene hans, sørg for at localene blir jobbet mer med, og send en > patch om en stund når det er vanlig med korrekte localer. That's the current plan. Christian
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