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A trimmed net

Published: Tuesday 2009-08-11.

Yesterday’s “big” news in the on-line papers was that the web address abbreviation service shut down. They say that they have not found a way to make money from redirecting addresses, and that Twitter’s choosing the competitor made competing difficult.

The question is who will weep over the loss? Personally, I am getting very annoyed at these services. It started several years ago when the Swedish MikroDatorn magazine stopped publishing real web addresses in its paper edition, and instead gave addresses on the form where “number” was an article number. Yes, they were easier to type and they could track the number of readers, but you never knew where you ended up, and when the magazine later was terminated (it has since apparently been re-establish) all the redirections disappeared, which suddenly made all the links in the articles useless. have promised that its redirections will work to the end of this year, but from then on no one knows what will happen. And since most of the users of these abbreviation services have published the addresses in articles that do not change, for example in forum posts, Usenet articles or paper magazine, suddenly, and for no reason, there will be a lot of references that stop working.

If they had published the real address, this would not have been a problem. Of course, this requires the page to use real addresses that are possible to copy without stumbling over how many “.aspx?articleid=42&rendermode=4711&fullmoon=true” that need to be added to the end of the address, but it easy to do by the web operators, it is just that many are too lazy to do it.

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  • Datum: 2009-08-12 08.36.11 CEST
  • Namn: Anders Carlsson
  • Sänt från: ******************

Jag har noterat att t.ex. Expressens artiklar har URL-formatet /artikelnummer/rubrik-utan-svenska-tecken. I nuläget fungerar det precis lika bra att ange /artikelnummer utan den sista delen. Vilken variant skulle du föredra, den längre adressen där man dock kan få ett hum om vad länken leder till, eller den kortare som i princip har statisk längd?

  • Datum: 2009-08-12 08.47.02 CEST
  • Namn: Peter Krefting
  • Sänt från: *******

De kunde ju erbjuda en "permalänk", som innehåller artikelnummer men är relativt enkel att skriva av.

  • Datum: 2009-08-12 11.26.01 CEST
  • Namn: Anders Carlsson
  • Sänt från: ******

Vad jag förstår utgör båda syntaxen permalänkar, för något värde på permanent.

Man kan också jämföra med eBay m.fl. där man antingen kan använda en parameterbaserad länk med objektsnummer eller en snorlång, genererad permalänk som innehåller så mycket bjäfs att man blir trött av att se dem. I fallet med auktionssajter tas dock gamla auktioner bort vartefter så de länkarna blir inte beständiga längre än i bästa fall ett par månader. Jag har sett att många användare inte känner till att man kan skriva om länken på parameterbaserat format, så de använder förkortningstjänster istället.

Det blir extra dumt när en tjänsteleverantör gått från någorlunda korta till ohyggligt långa länkar (förmodligen i förhoppning att sökmotorerna ska ranka högre), och så använder slutanvändaren en tredjeparts förkortningstjänst...

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